{"id":4768,"date":"2015-05-17T10:20:02","date_gmt":"2015-05-17T14:20:02","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/?p=4768"},"modified":"2015-05-17T11:23:58","modified_gmt":"2015-05-17T15:23:58","slug":"indian-detail-from-pro-bono-to-pro-se","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/2015\/05\/17\/indian-detail-from-pro-bono-to-pro-se\/","title":{"rendered":"INDIAN DETAIL: FROM &#8216;PRO BONO&#8217; TO &#8216;PRO SE&#8217;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong><a href=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/mnnlogo1.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-4752\" src=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/mnnlogo1-150x150.png\" alt=\"mnnlogo1\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" \/><\/a><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Please post &amp; distribute. Nia:wen.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MNN. May 16, 2015.<\/strong> \u201cPro bono\u201d are free lawyers. \u201cPro se\u201d are those who represent themselves. The \u201cINDIAN Detail\u201d military attack on Rotinoshonni at Onondaga was eighteen years ago. The \u201cpro bono\u201d lawyers had a winning case. Instead they decided to negotiate a financial settlement to drop the charges. 16 victims out of 100 refused to take the money and wanted a trial. Judge Wylie Dancks allowed the lawyers to drop them as clients, \u201cI let the lawyers drop those victims who refused to take New York State\u2019s money because I follow the law\u201d?? \u201cRemember\u201d, said the judge, \u201cthis is a really big case!\u201d<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_4769\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Indian-detail.gif\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4769\" class=\"wp-image-4769\" src=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/Indian-detail.gif\" alt=\"NYS military\/troopers on trial in Syracuse.\" width=\"300\" height=\"221\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4769\" class=\"wp-caption-text\"><em><strong>NYS troopers on trial in Syracuse.<\/strong><\/em><\/p><\/div>\n<p>On May 15<sup>th<\/sup>, 2015, only one \u201cpro se\u201d victim was invited to the private Syracuse court discussion on the forthcoming trial. The judge suggested this plaintiff not attend and would phone if something important came up. Only the lawyers for all parties would have been there to make decisions. The other lawyer-less plaintiffs heard rumors on Facebook and showed up. Throughout the judge reminded the victims that the money is there and the charges can still be dropped.<\/p>\n<p>One \u201cpro se\u201d reiterated, \u201cI want to talk about how my nation was attacked by a foreign entity, my father was murdered and my ceremony was trampled upon\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>The \u201cpro se\u201d group asked many questions. The judge laid out the rules of the game: \u201cLook at my direction of April 4\u201d, \u201cYou\u2019ll have to read everything in those boxes of disclosures\u201d. \u201cWhere\u2019s the statement about Ronald Jones and his wife\u201d [he was murdered shortly after the attack and his wife died]. \u201cWhy didn\u2019t one victim not make a deposition\u201d [she\u2019s almost 100 years old, doesn\u2019t speak English and can\u2019t travel!], so the judge let her off. She ordered another lawyer to send more stuff like copies of all the videos of the attack. There\u2019s a truckload on the two cases that NYS Troopers already lost. One \u201cpro se\u201d said, \u201cYou sent me disks and I don\u2019t have a computer\u201d. Wylie Dancks suggested, \u201cGo to the library and use their computer\u201d. The former \u201cpro bono\u201d lawyers have copies and transcripts, which the victims have to pay for. Now another box of stuff is being sent to each \u201cpro se\u201d.<\/p>\n<p>The judge ordered, \u201cI will not have Mohawk spoken in my court room!\u201d. One plaintiff asked, \u201cWho were the people responsible for what happened to us?\u201d The judge said, \u201cRead docket #149!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/speedy-trial1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright size-medium wp-image-4771\" src=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/speedy-trial1-284x300.jpg\" alt=\"'I firmly believe in the right to a speedy trial.'\" width=\"284\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/speedy-trial1-284x300.jpg 284w, https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/05\/speedy-trial1.jpg 400w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 284px) 100vw, 284px\" \/><\/a>The judge continued: \u201cBy September 11<sup>th<\/sup> we\u2019ll do this; by September 25 we\u2019ll do that; we\u2019ll make more discoveries; October 3 we\u2019ll have some more motions; on Nov. 6<sup>th<\/sup> other documents can be added; after that we can talk to each other by phone or in court; by New years eve we could have a summary dismissal [she hopes]. Otherwise, jury trial starts in 2016 [which will go on for a year], unless something \u2018extraordinary comes up\u2019, [like we might be so hopelessly confused we\u2019ll drop the charges.] The victims of the INDIAN DETAIL were treated to \u201cAmerican exceptionalism\u201d. [RONALD JONES VS. NY STATE 98-CV-374<\/p>\n<p>Buffy Sainte Marie has this to say about corruption: \u201cI got a man in the business line. He power hungry. He&#8217;s a money mine\u201d.<\/p>\n<div class=\"ose-youtube ose-uid-6b66ace045c6bda2c77cf68a6a247aec ose-embedpress-responsive\" style=\"width:1000px; height:1000px; max-height:1000px; max-width:100%; display:inline-block;\" data-embed-type=\"Youtube\"><iframe loading=\"lazy\" allowFullScreen=\"true\" title=\"Buffy Sainte-Marie - Fallen Angels\" width=\"1000\" height=\"1000\" src=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/embed\/EgVqX0vpQmg?feature=oembed&color=red&rel=0&controls=1&start=&end=&fs=0&iv_load_policy=0&autoplay=0&mute=0&modestbranding=0&cc_load_policy=1&playsinline=1\" frameborder=\"0\" allow=\"accelerometer; encrypted-media;accelerometer;autoplay;clipboard-write;gyroscope;picture-in-picture clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share\" referrerpolicy=\"strict-origin-when-cross-origin\" allowfullscreen><\/iframe><\/div>\n<p>[Fallen Angel].<\/p>\n<p><strong>MNN Mohawk Nation News <a href=\"mailto:kahentinetha@mohawknationnews.com\">kahentinetha@mohawknationnews.com<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong><strong>more news, books, workshops, to donate and sign up for MNN newsletters, go to <\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.mohawknationnews.com\/\"><strong>www.mohawknationnews.com<\/strong><\/a><strong>\u00a0 More stories at MNN Archives.\u00a0 Address:\u00a0 Box 991, Kahnawake [Quebec, Canada] <a href=\"mailto:J0Lthahoketoteh@mohawknationnews.com\">J0Lthahoketoteh@mohawknationnews.com<\/a>\u00a0<\/strong>for original Mohawk music visit <a href=\"http:\/\/thahoketoteh.ws\/\">thahoketoteh.ws<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/lakotalawproject.wordpress.com\/2015\/05\/14\/presidential-candidate-likens-native-americans-to-jihadists\/\">US: Ongwehonweh like jihadists.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.huffingtonpost.ca\/2013\/10\/18\/genocide-first-nations-aboriginals-canada-un_n_4123112.html\">Canada guilty of genocide.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.tworowtimes.com\/opinions\/opinion\/haudenosaunee-tobacco-law-htl\/\">Detlor: HCCC takeover of all Rotinoshonni economy.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.scribd.com\/Conscientious_Objector\">Draft tobacco law.<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.globalresearch.ca\/the-untold-story-of-unholy-alliance-between-the-vatican-the-cia-and-the-mafia\/5449288\">Vatican\/CIA\/Mafia alliance.<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<div style=\"display:flex; gap:10px;justify-content:center\" class=\"wps-pgfw-pdf-generate-icon__wrapper-frontend\">\n\t\t<a  href=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4768?action=genpdf&amp;id=4768\" class=\"pgfw-single-pdf-download-button\" ><img src=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/plugins\/pdf-generator-for-wp\/admin\/src\/images\/PDF_Tray.svg\" title=\"Generate PDF\" style=\"width:auto; height:45px;\"><\/a>\n\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp; Please post &amp; distribute. Nia:wen. MNN. May 16, 2015. \u201cPro bono\u201d are free lawyers. \u201cPro se\u201d are those who represent themselves. The \u201cINDIAN Detail\u201d military attack on Rotinoshonni at Onondaga was eighteen years ago. The \u201cpro bono\u201d lawyers had &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/2015\/05\/17\/indian-detail-from-pro-bono-to-pro-se\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"om_disable_all_campaigns":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[41,47,57,48,1560,32,74,77,49,83],"tags":[3179,3175,437,2953,3174,3166,3182,3181,3180,586,3176,3178,3119,3173,3177],"class_list":["post-4768","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-nwoorporationsmilitaryc","category-ganienkeh","category-genocide","category-great-peace-law-kaianerehkowa-democracy-two-row","category-indian-actfederal-indian-law","category-judges-courts-police-un","category-legal-lawyers","category-new-york-state","category-rotinoshonni","category-united-states-of-america","tag-american-exceptionalism","tag-buffy-sainte-marie-fallen-angel","tag-bureau-of-indian-affairs","tag-department-of-defense","tag-department-of-interior","tag-masonic-lodges","tag-nys-indian-detail","tag-nys-judge-george-lowe","tag-nys-judge-wylie-dancks","tag-nys-troopers","tag-onondaga-council-of-chiefs-inc","tag-pro-bono-pro-se","tag-ronald-jones-vs-ny-state-98-cv-374","tag-rotinoshonniiroquois-confederacy","tag-six-nations-council-of-chiefs-inc"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4768","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4768"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4768\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4768"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4768"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/mohawknationnews.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4768"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}